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Shallum & Jeremiah ?

Sunday, October 07, 2018

SHALLUM & JEREMIAH:

In the 22nd chapter of Jeremiah: In his words to Judah he has a few about Shallum. But who is this guy? This is said to be a prophesy about Jehoahaz so most of the commentaries say. At the death of Josiah in 609 BC the Jews were lamenting and making a reminder of his passing for future generations…. [i Chron. 3:15; 2 Chron. 36:1-4; Ezek.. 19:1-9; Isa. 57:1,2]. And Jeremiah makes the following prophesy about Josiah & Shallum.

Jeremiah 22:10 (NKJV) 10 Weep not for the dead, nor bemoan him; Weep bitterly for him who goes away, For he shall return no more, Nor see his native country.

Jeremiah 22:11-12 (NKJV) 11 For thus says the Lord concerning Shallum the son of Josiah, king of Judah, who reigned instead of Josiah his father, who went from this place: “He shall not return here anymore, 12 but he shall die in the place where they have led him captive, and shall see this land no more.

Shallum the son of Josiah (4th son of Josiah in 1 Chron. 3:15). Could either be Johoahaz, or it could be Zedekiah. Each of the statement that Jeremiah makes would fit the words of scriptures in 2 Kings 23:31; 2 Chron. 36:1-4 for Jehoahaz. And 2 Kings 24:17

Both were sons of Josiah —

Reigned instead of  his father — (allthough Jehoahaz is more likely here)

Who went forth from this place—

Shall not return — Nor see his native country again —

A)  [Jehoahaz did return & see Jerualem /Judah for a little while on his return from Riblah, before going on to Egypt & to die there].

B) [Zedekiah after capture was blinded & taken to Babylon where he died].

C) The Age of each assuming 1st Chronicles 3:15 is correct would support Zedekiah over Jehoahaz.

Perhaps the word apply to both men:

Who was Shallum ?

Monday, October 01, 2018

WHO WAS SHALLUM ?

IF you search the commentaries or the internet you will usually get ether a king of Israel (#15) or  you get Jehoahaz king of Judah.  While they are correct as to the first one and may be correct to the second I have some question as to the reason for their selection of Jehoahaz. Lets look at the evidence.

First: The list of names given in 1 Chronicles 3:15 have four sons listed for Josiah. And they are listed in birth order, which I have no reason to doubt the correctness of. But I can’t confirm it either.

                             a) first born -  Johanan  

                             b) Second   -   Jehoiakim

                             c) Third      -   Zedekiah      

                            d) Fourth    -   Shallum      {Requite - Retribution}

 

Second: The list of three sons of Josiah who were kings: are found in 2 Kings 23:31,Jehoahaz  34, 36 Eliakim /Jehoiakim   &   24:17   for Mattaniah /Zedekiah:  One grand-son also reigned for three months: Jehoiachin (2 Kings 24:8). Also found in 2 Chronicles 36:1,2 Joahaz age 23; —  v4,5 - Eliakim age 25; — v11 Zedekiah age 21

  • 2 Kings 23:31 (NKJV) 31 Jehoahaz was twenty-three years old when he became king, and he reigned three months in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Hamutal the daughter of Jeremiah of Libnah.
  • 2 Kings 23:34 Then Pharaoh Necho made Eliakim the son of Josiah king in place of his father Josiah, and changed his name to Jehoiakim. And Pharaoh took Jehoahaz and went to Egypt, and he died there.
  • 2 Kings 23:36 (NKJV) 36 Jehoiakim was twenty-five years old when he became king, and he reigned eleven years in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Zebidah the daughter of Pedaiah of Rumah
  • 2 Kings 24:17-18 (NKJV) 17 Then the king of Babylon made Mattaniah,  Jehoiachin’s uncle, king in his place, and changed his name to Zedekiah. 18 Zedekiah was twenty-one years old when he became king, and he reigned eleven years in Jerusalem. His mother’s name was Hamutal the daughter of Jeremiah of Libnah.

Jehoahaz {age 23 } was the peoples choice as their king (23:30). He was replaced by Pharaoh Neco who selected Eliakim {?} and changed his name to Jehoiakim { age 25 }

Then the king of Babylon made his (Jehoaiachin’s) uncle Mattaniah (?) king, changing his name to Zedekiah. {age 21}.

                               Age when became King   & /At death of Josiah {609 BC}

king [609 - Jehoiakim - (Zebuda)       [age 25   —         25 yrs — {Jehoiakim}       # 2 son

king [609 - Jehoahaz  - (Hamutal)      [age 23   —         23 yrs  — {Zedekiah}        # 3 son

king (597 - Zedekiah - (Hamutal          [age 21   —         10 yrs  — {Shallum}          # 4 son

 

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